Lostpedia - The Lost Encyclopedia

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Lostpedia is great ...
99.99% of all questions I have ever heard about LOST are answered at lostpedia ...

there is one thing that confuses people about lostpedia and I'll explain it :

lostpedia is an encyclopedia of LOST-related material ... all LOST-related material, including stuff not on the show that may or may not fit into the show perfectly ...

as quoted from the show, the words of the auctioneer : "The Black Rock set sail from Portsmouth, England, March 22nd 1845, on a trading mission to the kingdom of Siam, when she was tragically lost at sea. The only known artifact of this journey is the journal of the ship's first mate, which was discovered among the artifacts of pirates in Madagascar seven years later. The contents of this journal have never been made public, nor are known to anyone outside the family of the seller, Tovard Hanso." - http://lost.wikia.com/wiki/The_Black_Rock

Now when we see Black Rock on the Island, it has on it dynamite which was "invented by Swedish chemist and engineer Alfred Nobel in 1866" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite

So sometime after 1866, Black Rock comes to the Island.


here's what Lostpedia has to say about it :

Quote :

Final voyage :

According to an auctioneer selling the ship's first mate's journal, the Black Rock set sail from Portsmouth, England on March 22, 1845, purportedly on a trading mission to the Kingdom of Siam (now known as Thailand). The ship was believed to have been lost at sea. Seven years later, the journal was discovered among the artifacts of pirates on Île Sainte-Marie, an island off the coast of Madagascar. This journal is believed to be the only surviving remnant of the Black Rock's ill-fated final voyage, and was sold at a Southfield's auction to Charles Widmore. The ledger had previously been possessed and read solely by the Hanso family, but was put forward for sale by Tovard Hanso. ("The Constant")

In The Lost Experience, sources suggest that the Black Rock initially set sail from slip 23, Portsmouth, England, and set out on its final voyage in 1881. The ship was apparently on its way back from a mission to Papua New Guinea (though note that the name "Papua New Guinea" did not exist until the twentieth century). The ship was reportedly heading for Africa, where it was to exchange gold from Indonesia and Papua New Guinea for more slaves (most likely convicts - as slavery was abolished in England in 1807), and then presumably head back to England. However, since the Island is assumed to be to the East of Papua New Guinea, the ship would have been traveling in the wrong direction for Africa: east instead of west. Indeed, it was noted by traders at a Papua New Guinea port that the ship did set sail in the wrong direction. (The Lost Experience)

As the former account was included in an episode, and the latter part of an alternate reality game, it is assumed canon that the ship's final doomed voyage was in 1845. However, the alternative account that it dissappeared in 1881 has the advantage in that it explains the presence of dynamite aboard the ship, which was not invented until 1866.

Now my point is that the Lost Experience is not in the show LOST, so it cannot be used as evidence to prove a theory, except that the Final Voyage of Black Rock could not happen before dynamite was invented, so we accept that the Final Voyage of Black Rock was some time after 1881, so we accept the Lost Experience where it does not contradict the show ...

But nothing is proof of anything as concerns LOST unless we see it on the show ...

Lostpedia is an encyclopedia not a scientific thesis ... we should only use things we see on the show while watching in real-time as evidence for theories of things that might end up being proven true on the show ... stuff we have to stop the DVD to see doesn't count.

As long as people understand that anything published about LOST will be found in Lostpedia, even contradictory things.

But you can reference it for backing up theories, as long as there is evidence on the show and the show does not contradict your theory.


But anyone can make a theory and base it on nothing if they want, but theories are subject to easy disproof if they are contradicted by the show.

The whole Hanso/Black Rock thing is facinating to me...Thanks for pointing out the thing about the dynamite...great observation! You're right about lostpedia...
another one that I like and have referenced a few times in my posts is http://www.lostisagame.com ...it's full of little clues and other fun stuff...

I always thought the dynamite they found at the Black Rock couldn't have been originally on the ship. According the episode "Hellcats" (I think that's what it was called, anyway) of MacGyver (yeah, I know, relying on one tv show to prove or disprove something in another show can be questionable logic, but oh well...), old dynamite deteriorates and leaks nitroglycerin, becoming pretty much no good after a long enough time. Unless the Island saw fit to preserve it for a hundred plus years, I don't think it would've been any good any more...

if the Island can keep Richard and Jacob from aging, it can keep dynamite fresh too I guess.

DharmaCrisps wrote:

The whole Hanso/Black Rock thing is facinating to me...Thanks for pointing out the thing about the dynamite...great observation! You're right about lostpedia...
another one that I like and have referenced a few times in my posts is http://www.lostisagame.com ...it's full of little clues and other fun stuff...

Lostpedia is great for following characters' chronological history.

I usually ignore anything in Lostpedia that concerns LOST, but is taken from sources other than the actual show, except for the Black Rock stuff, because of the dynamite.

In 1845 Denmark sold off the last of it's lands in India to the British Empire.

I imagine this displeased the Danish natives.

I figure that Danish Pirates [ including a young Magnus Hanso ] led by Richard took Black Rock in 1845 [ as it passed by India on it's way to the Kingdom of Siam ] and ended up sailing by the Island [ the scene we saw in the season finale ... maybe ] but maybe not stopping ... maybe there was a storm and Richard was washed overboard along with a few others maybe ... or they stopped by the Island then left later on, leaving behind some of them ...

Magnus takes over as captain and becomes rich as time goes by [ because of the power of the Island ]

in 1882 Magnus goes back to try to find the Island again and the Island takes the ship in a flash to where we see it now in the middle of the jungle.

Magnus dies and is buried by Richard [ under Jacob's orders ], but first Richard [ who has been on the Island since 1845 ] gathers one of his organs and puts it in a jar in the Cabin and performs the hoodoo magic that binds Magnus' Soul to the Cabin [ the old man we see in the Cabin for a moment and the voice Locke heard say "Help Me" is the ghost of Magnus Hanso ].

that's how I see it anyway.

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